diff --git a/.gitattributes b/.gitattributes
index fe6fa72d33..2eae2ebf64 100644
--- a/.gitattributes
+++ b/.gitattributes
@@ -18599,6 +18599,7 @@ tests/webtbs/tw38069.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
 tests/webtbs/tw38074.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
 tests/webtbs/tw38083.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
 tests/webtbs/tw38122.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
+tests/webtbs/tw38122b.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
 tests/webtbs/tw3814.pp svneol=native#text/plain
 tests/webtbs/tw38145a.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
 tests/webtbs/tw38145b.pp svneol=native#text/pascal
diff --git a/compiler/ncal.pas b/compiler/ncal.pas
index ec31af5f8b..fb1ffb3497 100644
--- a/compiler/ncal.pas
+++ b/compiler/ncal.pas
@@ -4014,8 +4014,27 @@ implementation
 
               if methodpointer.nodetype<>typen then
                begin
-                  { Remove all postfix operators }
+                 { if the value a type helper works on is a derefentiation (before
+                   removing postix operators) we need to pass the original pointer
+                   as Self as the Self value might be changed by the helper }
+                 if is_objectpascal_helper(tdef(procdefinition.owner.defowner)) and
+                    not is_implicit_pointer_object_type(tobjectdef(procdefinition.owner.defowner).extendeddef) then
+                   begin
+                     hpt:=methodpointer;
+
+                     hpt:=actualtargetnode(@hpt)^;
+                     if hpt.nodetype=derefn then
+                       begin
+                         tmp:=tderefnode(hpt).left;
+                         tderefnode(hpt).left:=nil;
+                         methodpointer.free;
+                         methodpointer:=tmp;
+                       end;
+                   end;
+
                   hpt:=methodpointer;
+
+                  { Remove all postfix operators }
                   while assigned(hpt) and (hpt.nodetype in [subscriptn,vecn]) do
                     hpt:=tunarynode(hpt).left;
 
@@ -4038,19 +4057,6 @@ implementation
                    e.g. class reference types account }
                  hpt:=actualtargetnode(@hpt)^;
 
-                 { if the value a type helper works on is a derefentiation we need to
-                   pass the original pointer as Self as the Self value might be
-                   changed by the helper }
-                 if is_objectpascal_helper(tdef(procdefinition.owner.defowner)) and
-                    not is_implicit_pointer_object_type(tobjectdef(procdefinition.owner.defowner).extendeddef) and
-                    (hpt.nodetype=derefn) then
-                   begin
-                     tmp:=tderefnode(hpt).left;
-                     tderefnode(hpt).left:=nil;
-                     methodpointer.free;
-                     methodpointer:=tmp;
-                   end;
-
                  { R.Init then R will be initialized by the constructor,
                    Also allow it for simple loads }
                  if (procdefinition.proctypeoption=potype_constructor) or
diff --git a/tests/webtbs/tw38122b.pp b/tests/webtbs/tw38122b.pp
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..b99996612e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/webtbs/tw38122b.pp
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+program tw38122b;
+{$mode delphi}
+uses sysutils;
+type trec=record
+  i:integer;
+ end;
+
+ var rec:trec;
+     prec:^trec;
+     s: string;
+begin
+  rec.i:=20;
+  prec:=@rec;
+  s:=prec.i.tostring;
+  //writeln(s);
+  if s<>'20' then
+    halt(1);
+end.
+