diff --git a/components/synedit/synedit.pp b/components/synedit/synedit.pp
index 0dd93f701c..5ca7b81daa 100644
--- a/components/synedit/synedit.pp
+++ b/components/synedit/synedit.pp
@@ -1484,6 +1484,8 @@ end;
 constructor TCustomSynEdit.Create(AOwner: TComponent);
 begin
   inherited Create(AOwner);
+  SetAncestor(True); // temp until tframe does this
+  SetInline(True);
 
   fBeautifier := SynDefaultBeautifier;
 
@@ -1674,7 +1676,8 @@ end;
 
 procedure TCustomSynEdit.GetChildren(Proc: TGetChildProc; Root: TComponent);
 begin
-  Proc(FGutter.Parts);
+  if root = self then
+    Proc(FGutter.Parts);
 end;
 
 procedure TCustomSynEdit.CreateParams(var Params: TCreateParams);
@@ -1783,7 +1786,6 @@ begin
   fPlugins:=nil;
   FCaret.Lines := nil;
   FInternalCaret.Lines := nil;
-  FreeAndNil(fScrollTimer);
   FreeAndNil(fTSearch);
   FreeAndNil(fMarkupManager);
   FreeAndNil(fMarkList);
diff --git a/components/synedit/syneditmiscclasses.pp b/components/synedit/syneditmiscclasses.pp
index 395451c26c..dfb1a0dcc1 100644
--- a/components/synedit/syneditmiscclasses.pp
+++ b/components/synedit/syneditmiscclasses.pp
@@ -184,6 +184,7 @@ type
     destructor  Destroy; override;
     property Index: Integer read GetIndex write SetIndex;
     property DisplayName: String read GetDisplayName;
+    function GetParentComponent: TComponent; override; // for child order in stream reading
   end;
 
   TSynObjectListItemClass = class of TSynObjectListItem;
@@ -781,6 +782,8 @@ end;
 constructor TSynObjectList.Create(AOwner: TComponent);
 begin
   Inherited Create(AOwner);
+  SetAncestor(True);
+  SetInline(True);
   FList := TList.Create;
   FOwner := AOwner;
 end;
@@ -795,7 +798,7 @@ end;
 procedure TSynObjectList.Assign(Source: TPersistent);
 begin
   FList.Assign(TSynObjectList(Source).FList);
-  DoChange(self);;
+  DoChange(self);
 end;
 
 function TSynObjectList.GetChildOwner: TComponent;
@@ -807,8 +810,9 @@ procedure TSynObjectList.GetChildren(Proc: TGetChildProc; Root: TComponent);
 var
   i: Integer;
 begin
-  for i:= 0 to Count -1 do
-    Proc(BaseItems[i]);
+  if Root = self then
+    for i:= 0 to Count -1 do
+      Proc(BaseItems[i]);
 end;
 
 procedure TSynObjectList.SetChildOrder(Child: TComponent; Order: Integer);
@@ -895,6 +899,7 @@ end;
 constructor TSynObjectListItem.Create(AOwner: TComponent);
 begin
   inherited Create(AOwner);
+  SetAncestor(True);
   FOwner := AOwner as TSynObjectList;
   FOwner.RegisterItem(self);
 end;
@@ -905,6 +910,11 @@ begin
   FOwner.Delete(FOwner.IndexOf(self));
 end;
 
+function TSynObjectListItem.GetParentComponent: TComponent;
+begin
+  Result := FOwner;
+end;
+
 { TSynClipboardStream }
 
 function TSynClipboardStream.GetMemory: Pointer;
diff --git a/components/synedit/syngutter.pp b/components/synedit/syngutter.pp
index d32b95ee3a..45390b4b24 100644
--- a/components/synedit/syngutter.pp
+++ b/components/synedit/syngutter.pp
@@ -121,11 +121,17 @@ begin
   AutoSize := True;
 
   if not(csLoading in AOwner.ComponentState) then begin
-    TSynGutterMarks.Create(Parts);
-    TSynGutterLineNumber.Create(Parts);
-    TSynGutterChanges.Create(Parts);
-    TSynGutterSeparator.Create(Parts);
-    TSynGutterCodeFolding.Create(Parts);
+    // Todo: currently there is only one Gutter so names can be fixed
+    with TSynGutterMarks.Create(Parts) do
+      Name := 'SynGutterMarks1';
+    with TSynGutterLineNumber.Create(Parts) do
+      Name := 'SynGutterLineNumber1';
+    with TSynGutterChanges.Create(Parts) do
+      Name := 'SynGutterChanges1';
+    with TSynGutterSeparator.Create(Parts) do
+      Name := 'SynGutterSeparator1';
+    with TSynGutterCodeFolding.Create(Parts) do
+      Name := 'SynGutterCodeFolding1';
   end;
 end;
 
diff --git a/components/synedit/syngutterbase.pp b/components/synedit/syngutterbase.pp
index dcaa2cc241..8322e1d29c 100644
--- a/components/synedit/syngutterbase.pp
+++ b/components/synedit/syngutterbase.pp
@@ -143,9 +143,12 @@ uses SynEdit;
 { TSynGutterBase }
 
 constructor TSynGutterBase.Create(AOwner: TSynEditBase; AFoldedLinesView: TSynEditFoldedView; ATextDrawer: TheTextDrawer);
+var
+  plist: TSynGutterPartList;
 begin
   inherited Create;
-  TSynGutterPartList.Create(AOwner, self);
+  plist := TSynGutterPartList.Create(AOwner, self);
+  plist.Name := 'SynGutterPartList1'; // Todo: currently there is just one gutter, so only one name needed
 
   FTextDrawer := ATextDrawer;
   FFoldView := AFoldedLinesView;
@@ -283,6 +286,7 @@ end;
 constructor TSynGutterPartBase.Create(AOwner: TComponent);
 begin
   Inherited Create(AOwner);
+
   FGutter := GutterParts.Gutter;
   FSynEdit := GutterParts.SynEdit;
 
@@ -362,6 +366,7 @@ end;
 constructor TSynGutterPartList.Create(AOwner: TComponent);
 begin
   Inherited Create(AOwner);
+  include(FComponentStyle, csTransient);
   if assigned(TSynEdit(SynEdit).Gutter) then
     FGutter := TSynEdit(SynEdit).Gutter;
   Gutter.RegisterNewGutterPartList(self);
diff --git a/components/synedit/synpropertyeditobjectlist.pas b/components/synedit/synpropertyeditobjectlist.pas
index 8d89faff89..d069659b11 100644
--- a/components/synedit/synpropertyeditobjectlist.pas
+++ b/components/synedit/synpropertyeditobjectlist.pas
@@ -63,6 +63,7 @@ type
     MoveUpButton: TToolButton;
     MoveDownButton: TToolButton;
     procedure AddButtonClick(Sender: TObject);
+    function CreateUniqueComponentName(const AClassName: string; OwnerComponent: TComponent): string;
     procedure SynObjectPartsListBoxClick(Sender: TObject);
     procedure DeleteButtonClick(Sender: TObject);
     procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
@@ -112,13 +113,15 @@ end;
 procedure TSynObjectPartListPropertyEditorForm.AddButtonClick(Sender: TObject);
 var
   i: Integer;
+  NewPart: TSynObjectListItem;
 begin
   if (SynObjectPartList = nil) or (FClassesList = nil) then Exit;
 
   i := ClassComboBox.ItemIndex;
   if (i < 0) or (i >= FClassesList.Count) then
     exit;
-  TSynObjectListItemClass(Pointer(FClassesList.Objects[i])).Create(SynObjectPartList);
+  NewPart := TSynObjectListItemClass(Pointer(FClassesList.Objects[i])).Create(SynObjectPartList);
+  NewPart.Name := CreateUniqueComponentName(NewPart.ClassName, SynObjectPartList);
 
   FillSynObjectPartsListBox;
   if SynObjectPartsListBox.Items.Count > 0 then
@@ -129,6 +132,30 @@ begin
   Modified;
 end;
 
+function TSynObjectPartListPropertyEditorForm.CreateUniqueComponentName(const AClassName: string;
+  OwnerComponent: TComponent): string;
+var
+  i, j: integer;
+begin
+  Result:=AClassName;
+  if (OwnerComponent=nil) or (Result='') then exit;
+  i:=1;
+  while true do begin
+    j:=OwnerComponent.ComponentCount-1;
+    Result:=AClassName;
+    if (length(Result)>1) and (Result[1]='T') then
+      Result:=RightStr(Result,length(Result)-1);
+    if Result[length(Result)] in ['0'..'9'] then
+      Result:=Result+'_';
+    Result:=Result+IntToStr(i);
+    while (j>=0)
+    and (CompareText(Result,OwnerComponent.Components[j].Name)<>0) do
+      dec(j);
+    if j<0 then exit;
+    inc(i);
+  end;
+end;
+
 procedure TSynObjectPartListPropertyEditorForm.SynObjectPartsListBoxClick(Sender: TObject);
 begin
   UpdateButtons;